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Arthur Collins got 20 years jail

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Funclesmuck Tue 19-Dec-17 20:29:54

And I’m fucking glad he did. The smarmy twat thought he would get away with what he did. So pleased the punishment fitted the crime.

Samcro Tue 19-Dec-17 20:34:30

I hope he serves every day

Babababababybel23 Tue 19-Dec-17 20:36:57

Not enough in my opinion. He should of got at least 3 years for every person he hurt. Which I believe was 14 people.

MrsZippyLake Tue 19-Dec-17 20:44:18

Perhaps the judge was enraged by the letter AC submitted to court in which he described his actions as “a silly little mistake”. Yes I’m sure that’s what the victims thought too hmm

SavageBeauty73 Tue 19-Dec-17 20:45:04

Good. Hope he doesn't get parole.

EnidButton Tue 19-Dec-17 20:48:39

What does "5 years on licence" mean please?

Funclesmuck Tue 19-Dec-17 21:09:01

I think the “on license” bit means that is when he can be up for parole.

LizzieSiddal Tue 19-Dec-17 21:11:12

Yes it means when he does eventually get out, for the following 5 years if he breaks the law in any way, he'll be back in prison.

I'm glad he got such a long sentence and hope it's a warning to many others.

JaneEyre70 Tue 19-Dec-17 21:13:17

I had a feeling he'd get a heavy sentence and thank goodness he did. I'm still agog that Fearne got a series with ITVBe, seems a bit sick really. She knew damn well what she was getting into, and isn't the victim here although she likes to play it.

StripySocksAndDocs Tue 19-Dec-17 21:15:23

I understsnd on licence means they are out of prison but still serving the sentence. They will go back inside should they violate conditions.

Not sure why it's different to parole though.

CauliflowerSqueeze Tue 19-Dec-17 21:16:45

Prisoners only serve a third of their sentence don’t they though?

Bringbeboback Tue 19-Dec-17 21:17:09

I think he should have got longer. He’ll be out in his 40s and can still go on to lead a normal life. He’d Probably get at least 30 years if he committed that sort of crime in America.

Hels20 Tue 19-Dec-17 21:32:41

He’ll serve 2/3 of 20 years in prison (though not sure how much of that will be in an Open prison) PROVIDED he is in best behaviour and will be on parole for the last 1/3 (so immediate recall if he breaks his parole conditions). Then he is out but on licence - so basically like he is on parole. He may serve the full 20 years in prison if his behaviour doesn’t warrant early release but the last 5 years he will be allowed out provided he doesn’t commit any other crime. I think that’s how it works.

A good sentence. Just can’t quite work out why Fearne hasn’t really sad much against him in public.

laudanum Tue 19-Dec-17 21:41:06

Ferne probably hasn't said much about it publicly because she's likely saving it for a book deal or the like.

He won't have a pleasant time in prison either, he's a 'pretty boy' so that will cause him a lot of problems.

EnidButton Wed 20-Dec-17 02:46:22

Thank you Lizzie Funcle and Stripy. I thought it was something like that but wasn't sure.

EnidButton Wed 20-Dec-17 02:46:51

And Hels

OtterInDisgrace Wed 20-Dec-17 02:54:23

Fucking good, I guess there is no real sentence that would properly punish him, but that’s better than nothing.

They have to do something about these acid attacks that’s commensurate. In a minute you can change someone’s life and I don’t think there is a prison sentence long enough

Mustang27 Wed 20-Dec-17 03:35:58

I don't think the victims get enough media attention. I'm sick of seeing his face and Ferne's im sure she is a lovely woman but really she has nothing to do with it.

He really did think he was getting away with it I'm so glad he got 20 years.

sashh Wed 20-Dec-17 04:28:23

I understsnd on licence means they are out of prison but still serving the sentence. They will go back inside should they violate conditions.

Not sure why it's different to parole though.

I read it as an extended licence. So 2/3 in prison, 1/3 parole, then 5 years on licence. The parole and licence might have different conditions eg how often he has to meet with his parole officer (can't remember the correct term) or where he can live.

MrsTerryPratchett Wed 20-Dec-17 04:46:18

Just so people don't get frothy about 'people not serving their sentences' and 'ten years should mean ten years' there are very good reasons that people don't serve their whole sentence inside.

One: it promotes good behaviour inside. Offenders have something to lose if they misbehave inside.

Two: it means people have conditions on release. Otherwise they would be on their own reconnaissance and that's dangerous.

Three: It promotes the idea of rehabilitation. You have years to think and work out if you are sorry and repentant.

CauliflowerSqueeze Wed 20-Dec-17 06:24:29

I think they should always say what the minimum term will be.

Good behaviour could be promoted by extending the term if they don’t behave.

Hels20 Wed 20-Dec-17 06:35:03

I am actually really surprised (and pleased) at the length of the sentence - it was a dreadful crime. But I think it depends on what you think prison should be used for. To set an example? For rehabilitation? To protect the public? For punishment?

The minimum term for murder is 15 years (for an adult) (though you are on licence for life - hence why Jon Venables keeps on getting recalled).

I think 13 years in prison if he is truly sorry and has rehabilitated seems ok when you benchmark it against other crimes and their sentences. If he’s not sorry, doesn’t admit guilt then he won’t be released. I certainly wouldn’t want to go the US way where they lock people up seemingly forever.

Awwlookatmybabyspider Wed 20-Dec-17 06:39:37

He called it a silly mistake.
No a silly mistake is for example when you accidentally leave a tap on and causing a flood not going into somewhere and deliberately maiming people leaving them in unimaginable agony.

Amatree Wed 20-Dec-17 06:44:05

I've never understood what his motivation was? It seems odd (psychotic?) that he would do something like that just for 'fun' but nothing has ever been said about why he did it?

Hels20 Wed 20-Dec-17 07:01:46

He was a drug dealer and I think the prosecution presented it as gang related warfare - about turf.

His excuse was laughable - trying to protect women against the date rape drug.